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| − | Q. What part of the thyroid had been forced into there?
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| − | A. It had all been forced upwards and outwards.
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| − | Q. What do you mean by outwards ?
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| − | A. This way (indicating).
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| − | Q. In other words the pressure had apparently been brought from behind it?
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| − | A. No; the pressure came from in front of it/
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| − | Q. Would it naturally not shove it back instead of forward if you push hard ?
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| − | A. If you push there hard enough you would be fully convinced; you push upward; if you press hard enough it's got to come out.
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| − | Q. In other words upwards and outwards.?
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| − | A. Yes.
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| − | Q. Now a man lying in the position you state the body was in, supposing, following up your theory, a man came up to throttle him, would'nt the marks be up and down the neck instead of straight across it ?
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| − | A. You would'nt reach up.
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| − | Q. But a man the way you've last showed us there-it's the way you would naturally do it, is it not? On one side or the other of the neck instead of across it ?
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| − | A. Yes.
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| − | Q. So then in a case of that kind the scars would'nt be straight across the neck they would be up and down on it, would they not ?
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| − | A. I don't know exactly what you mean, Mr Gillan.
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| − | Q. Suppose a man reaches to choke; we'll presume that's the neck (indicating) he naturally would catch him that way ?
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| − | A. Sure.
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| − | Q. Then the marks would be up and down instead of straight across ?
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| − | A. They would be one above the other.
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| − | BC Archives GR-0419 / BRITISH COLUMBIA. ATTORNEY GENERAL. /Box 95 File 1903/18 / Attorney General documents.
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