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1903/18 Rex vs. D.L. Ray and Wing Wo – murder (Trail)

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Q. What  part of  the thyroid had been forced into there? A.  It had all been forced upwards and outwards. A What do you mean by outwards ? A This way  (indicating). Q In other words  the pressure had apparently been brought from behind it?
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Q. What  part of  the thyroid had been forced into there?  
A No; the pressure came from in front of it/ Q Would it naturally not shove it back instead of forward if you push hard ? A If you push there hard enough you would be fully convinced; you push upward; if you press hard enough it's got to come out.
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Q.  In other words upwards and outwards.? A yes. Q. Now a man lying in the position you state the body was in, supposing, following up your theory, a man came up  to throttle him, would'nt the marks be up and down the neck
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A.  It had all been forced upwards and outwards.  
instead of  straight across it ?  A You would'nt reach up. Q. But a man  the way you've last showed us there-it's the way you would naturally do it,  is it not? On one side or the other of  the neck instead of across it ? A Yes.
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Q So then in a case of  that kind the scars would'nt be straight across  the neck they would be up and down on it, would they not ?
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Q. What do you mean by outwards ?  
A I don't know exactly what you mean, Mr Gillan. Q Suppose a man reaches to choke;  we'll  presume  that's  the neck (indicating) he naturally would catch him that way ?  A Sure. Q. Then the marks would be up and down instead of straight across ? A. They would be one above the other.
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BC Archives GR-0419         BRITISH COLUMBIA. ATTORNEY GENERAL. Box 95 File 1903/18           Attorney General documents.
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A. This way  (indicating).  
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Q. In other words  the pressure had apparently been brought from behind it?
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A. No; the pressure came from in front of it/  
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Q. Would it naturally not shove it back instead of forward if you push hard ?  
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A. If you push there hard enough you would be fully convinced; you push upward; if you press hard enough it's got to come out.
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Q.  In other words upwards and outwards.?  
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A. Yes.
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Q. Now a man lying in the position you state the body was in, supposing, following up your theory, a man came up  to throttle him, would'nt the marks be up and down the neck instead of  straight across it ?   
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A. You would'nt reach up.  
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Q. But a man  the way you've last showed us there-it's the way you would naturally do it,  is it not? On one side or the other of  the neck instead of across it ?  
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A. Yes.
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Q. So then in a case of  that kind the scars would'nt be straight across  the neck they would be up and down on it, would they not ?
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A. I don't know exactly what you mean, Mr Gillan.  
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Q. Suppose a man reaches to choke;  we'll  presume  that's  the neck (indicating) he naturally would catch him that way ?   
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A. Sure.  
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Q. Then the marks would be up and down instead of straight across ?  
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A. They would be one above the other.
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BC Archives GR-0419     /    BRITISH COLUMBIA. ATTORNEY GENERAL. /Box 95 File 1903/18     /      Attorney General documents.

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Q. What part of the thyroid had been forced into there?

A. It had all been forced upwards and outwards.

Q. What do you mean by outwards ?

A. This way (indicating).

Q. In other words the pressure had apparently been brought from behind it?

A. No; the pressure came from in front of it/

Q. Would it naturally not shove it back instead of forward if you push hard ?

A. If you push there hard enough you would be fully convinced; you push upward; if you press hard enough it's got to come out.

Q. In other words upwards and outwards.?

A. Yes.

Q. Now a man lying in the position you state the body was in, supposing, following up your theory, a man came up to throttle him, would'nt the marks be up and down the neck instead of straight across it ?

A. You would'nt reach up.

Q. But a man the way you've last showed us there-it's the way you would naturally do it, is it not? On one side or the other of the neck instead of across it ?

A. Yes.

Q. So then in a case of that kind the scars would'nt be straight across the neck they would be up and down on it, would they not ?

A. I don't know exactly what you mean, Mr Gillan.

Q. Suppose a man reaches to choke; we'll presume that's the neck (indicating) he naturally would catch him that way ?

A. Sure.

Q. Then the marks would be up and down instead of straight across ?

A. They would be one above the other.

BC Archives GR-0419 / BRITISH COLUMBIA. ATTORNEY GENERAL. /Box 95 File 1903/18 / Attorney General documents.